The Pope: Could he be Cardinal Siri?

The article below, written in 1986 before Siri’s death in 1989, could open new investigations.


The Pope: Could He Be Cardinal Siri?

By Louis Hubert Remy

Translated into English by Heidi Hagen for  

“The Sangre de Cristo Newsnotes” – No. 55 – December 1987

Westcliffe, Colorado, U.S.A. – Page 3

Original text in French published in the


Editions Sainte Jeanne d’Arc

Director: Mr. A.M. Bonnet de Viller

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 In one of his writings, Prince Scortesco, German cousin of Prince Borghese, President of the Conclave which elected Montini to the Supreme Pontifi­cate, gives the following information concerning the Conclave of 21 June 1963: “During the Conclave, a Cardinal left the Sistine Chapel, met with the representatives of B’nai – B’rith, announced to them the election of Cardinal Siri.  They replied by saying that the persecutions against the Church would continue at once.  Returning to the Conclave, he made Montini to be elected.”

When paying a visit to Monsieur de la Franquerie, in November 1984, with my friend François Dallais, we spoke again of this grave problem.  Mon­sieur de La Franquerie, in 1963, was in permanent contact with numerous Roman prelates, and he confirmed to us that he had heard of this confidentially by persons who could he trusted to be well aware of these facts.

We decided, in order to relieve our conscience, to see Cardinal Siri in Genoa.  As Monsieur de la Franquerie has had the opportunity of seeing him in the past and having had pleasant conversations with him, he wrote to him in order to ask for an audience; which the Cardinal granted to us on Friday follow­ing Ascension, 1985.

In this way on 17 May 1985, we met together at my home in Lyon, Monsieur de la Franquerie, and François Dallais.  The evening was marvelous.  I admit that I am sensitive to the charm of the very old France of our dear Marquis, and we occupied, un­til a very advanced hour of the night, unforgettable moments by listening to his souvenirs of a fecund and well-filled life.  In his souvenirs of Monseigneur [Paul] Jouin, the Marechal Petain or of Pius XII, Monsieur de la Franquerie is unquenchable and passionate.

The following day we left early to Genoa where the Cardinal was expecting us towards ten hours and granted us an audience of two hours.  We were re­ceived with much attention in the wonderful episco­pal palace of Genoa.  The Cardinal speaks French very well, was cordial, attentive, and of a courtesy proper to people, who are great by their function, but still greater by their heart.  A dialogue took place between these two respectable persons in a diplomatic language which I did not know and which is of a charm and delicacy resulting from the education of hundreds of years, and unfortunately no longer exists today.

They spoke of several problems of today and the past, which need not be recalled here.  Of concern to us, as arranged the evening before, was to speak, first of all, about Cardinal Tisserant’s leaving the conclave.  When we recalled this fact, the reaction of Cardinal Siri was clear, precise, firm, and unques­tionable: “No, no one has left the Conclave.”  He could only give witness of what he had seen and not of what might have happened, while he was asleep, or behind his back.  But what retained our attention was this firmness, this categorical NO of the Cardinal.

Some moments later, when we asked him wheth­er he had been elected pope, his reaction was com­pletely different.  He started by remaining silent for a long time, then raised his eyes to heaven with a ric­tus of suffering and pain, joined his hands and said, weighing each word with gravity: “I am bound by the secret.”  Then, after a long silence, heavy for us all, he said again: “I am bound by the secret.  This secret is horrible.  I would have books to write about the different conclaves.  Very serious things have taken place.  But I can say nothing.”

Let’s think about it.  If he had not been elected pope, he would have said so with as much prompt­ness and firmness as he had replied to the preceding question.  As he had been elected, he could not say so, as he was bound by the secret, and as he could not lie, he took refuge behind this secret.

In fact, it appears that someone among my trust­worthy friends who knows him very well has as­sured me that the Cardinal had told him that he had been elected pope twice: instead of Paul VI and in­stead of Wojtyla.  The first time he had refused, the second time he had been obliged to refuse under the pressure of schism!

We were three witnesses who have left very perturbed and practically convinced of his election.

And now there are serious questions being raised.  Has he resigned?  Has he been forced to re­sign?  What about these elections?  What heavy se­crets are weighing upon him?

During the last Synod, he remained some hours and then left.  In spite of his advanced age and the fact that he exceeded 75 years, he has not given his resignation and he has not been asked to do so [as of this publication in July 1986].

What now?  The last Cardinal nominated by Pius XII, we leave to the historians and theologians the care to study this question thoroughly and to reply to it.  We simply leave this grave witness.

End of Remy Article

SIRI, Giuseppe (1906-1989)

Birth. May 20, 1906, Genoa, Italy.

Education. Seminary of Genoa, Genoa; Pontifical Gregorian University, Rome.

Priesthood. Ordained, September 22, 1928, Genoa. Further studies, 1928-1930. Faculty member of Seminary of Genoa and pastoral work in Genoa, 1930-1944.

Episcopate. Elected titular bishop of Liviade and appointed auxiliary of Genoa, March 14, 1944. Consecrated, May 7, 1944, Genoa, by Cardinal Pietro Boetto, S.J., archbishop of Genoa. Promoted to metropolitan see of Genoa, May 14, 1946.

Cardinalate. Created cardinal priest, January 12, 1953; received the red hat and the title of S. Maria della Vittoria, January 15, 1953. Papal legate to 4th centennial celebration of death of Saint Ignatius, Loyola, July 19, 1956; to religious celebrations of International Exposition of Brussels, Belgium, July 24, 1958. President of Italian Episcopal Conference, 1958-1965. Participated in the conclave of 1958. Attended II Vatican Council, 1962-1965; member of its board of presidency, 1963-1965. Participated in the conclave of 1963. Attended I Ordinary Assembly of the World Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, September 29-October 29, 1967; II Ordinary Assembly of the World Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, September 30-November 6, 1971; III Ordinary Assembly of World Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, September 27-October 26, 1974. Participated in the conclave of August 25-26, 1978. Participated in the conclave of October 14-16, 1978. Attended I Plenary Assembly of Sacred College of Cardinals, Vatican City, November 5-9, 1979; II Extraordinary Assembly of the World Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, November 24-December 8, 1985; special guest. Lost right to participate in the conclave when turned 80 years of age, May 20, 1986. Resigned pastoral government of archdiocese, July 6, 1987.

Death. May 2, 1989, Villa Campostano, Albaro.
Buried, S. Lorenzo metropolitan cathedral, Genoa.

Bibliography. Grone, Mario. Accanto al “mio” Cardinale Giuseppe Siri. Genova: Marietti, 1999; Lai, Benny. Il papa non eletto: Giuseppe Siri, cardinale di Santa Romana Chiesa. Rome: Laterza, 1993. (I Robinson); Spiazzi, Raimondo. Il Cardinale Giuseppe Siri, arcivescovo di Genova dal 1946 al 1987. Bologna : Edizione Studio Domenicano, 1990

And, in light of all of the above, with special attention to the report that Siri retired from the pastoral government of the archdiocese of Genoa on July 6, 1987, just under two years before his death was reported in the press on May 2, 1989, consider this prophecy of Pope St. Pius X as carried in the book, Catholic Prophecy, by Yves Dupont, published by TAN books in 1971, and elsewhere. Below is the complete prophecy, as some versions leave out the words “by name”:

“I saw one of my successors by name taking to flight over the bodies of his brethren. He will take refuge in disguise somewhere and after a short retirement he will die a cruel death. The present wickedness of the world is only the beginning of the sorrows which must take place before the end of the world.” – Pope St. Pius X, circa 1910.

The following solution to this prophecy has been proposed by Mr. Gary Giuffre: The “by name” possibly refers to the fact that both Joseph Siri and Joseph Sarto (Pius X) had the same first name. That after the 1958 Conclave Siri took to flight out of Rome over the bodies of his brethren, the deceased Popes, most of whom were buried in the area of the Vatican. That, checkmated, he took refuge in Genoa in the garb of the Cardinal that he was before being elected Pope (this was also possibly dove-tail with Anna Catherine Emmerick’s prophecy circa 1821 about the “Pope who will wear red”. And then the quizzical words from Pope St. Pius X, “. . . after a short retirement he will die a cruel death.” It is absolutely unheard of for a Pope to retire. However, in the biography above we see that to all appearances, Siri retired for about two years before his death. Reports of his death stated that his bows exploded, possibly indicating some kind of poisoning resulting in a very painful and “cruel” death. Siri’s sickness and death were reported about two years after the above article by Louis Hubert Remy appeared, and about 1 year after Gary Giuffre’s articles suggesting Siri’s suppressed pontificate began to circle the globe.